I will try the shielding and then the keyboard. Tooling charge for the = keyboard is not really a problem. I would appriciate the name of the keypad = company=20 if you can give me. We have keypad providers here but they do a lousy = job=20 most of the time, and I don't think they would be up to what you = suggested=20 here. Could you also recommend how to make this hardware disfunction? At the=20 customer side they complain it messes up next to a pump/motor, but when=20 I try put the unit next to the largest pump we have at the factory and = nothing=20 happens. In other words, how could I reproduce this problem? -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list = [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Brian Clewer Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:30 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: EMI shielding, was WDT and C compiler choice ? =D6mer, Sounds like it's down to EMI shielding then. You should have some sort = of ground plane on the PCB and put the unit in an earthed metal box. As = far as the keypad goes, this could be a problem as it acts like an aerial for = the magnetic radiation. I do believe you are able to get keypads made with = a conductive front overlay. If you were to use such a keypad and ground = the front, this should make things better. The only problem with that is = they cost loads. I am about to get a keypad made with a tooling charge = upwards of =A3500 UKP. Try the metal box first and see if it fixes the problem. Don't try to fix this with software. It just isn't going to happen. Brian. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu