> > If its so "trivial" one would think there would be a good many more > > solar farms out there. Same goes for wind farms. People have > > been working on these for a long time; why isn't there a more > > reasonable return on investment yet if it can be done so easily? NZ company Whisper Tech is now producing Stirling engines for domestic power generation (apparently beating My Segway - Dean Kamen). They've run household trials in the UK for some time and, as happens with wind/solar, there is enough left over to feed back into the national grid. Gas is a reasonably clean energy source and could be got from rubbish dumps or bio-mass Experiments are going on around NZ with wave/tide/wind power too -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body