Writing to off-screen and reading it back never occured to me. It is a = good idea. I'll play with initialization of the pic and the lcd a = little bit more, see if I can fix it at the source. If not this idea = seems good to work. thanks for the tip,=20 Omer -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Nigel Orr Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:55 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE]: NPN Transistors > Should you choose to put a band-aid over it: I don't think > you need to turn the contrast off. You should be able to > read/write so rapidly that a user wouldn't really see it. On the 44780-type drivers, are unused data locations implemented? I presume they are, so on a 16 character display, you could write to and = read from character 17 as slowly as you wanted without it being visible- is = that correct? You could also write and read with the display turned off, but I'm not = sure that being able to correctly read a character is a guarantee that the = LCD has initialised properly. Oh, and I only glanced at the transistor circuit, and now I've deleted = it, but ISTR that the NPN was the wrong way round. It also wouldn't have = given the full range of 0-5V, which is apparently needed for some displays = (some have acceptable contrast at close to 0V, some at close to 5V, AIUI. Nigel -- Nigel Orr, Design Engineer nigel@axoninstruments.co.uk Axon Instruments Ltd., Wardes Road,Inverurie,Aberdeenshire,UK,AB51 3TT Tel:+44 1467 622332 Fax:+44 1467 625235 http://www.axoninstruments.co.uk -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body