>=20 > Some of this is funny, but don't you think it's only common=20 > courtesy to have done all the reasonable and accessible=20 > things to avoid stupid mistakes before asking 2000 people for=20 > a favor to help diagnose your problem? >=20 Of course. But I know the symptoms of these things, and if I ever see them, then I go back to the "safe" mode. I would never say "Oh, my PIC is resetting randomly. What's wrong?" when I knew that I wasn't using bypass caps. Alex -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads