> > I have to trump you on that, I sometimes interface the > serial port by > > connecting PIC +5V to serial port GND and PIC TX to serial RX > > Make a small board with a MAX232 + caps on it, PC serial lead > and clips to attach to the PIC. Comes in very handy to download > or upload RAM / EEPROM during debugging I know, I know... I was just trying to reassure Alex that he's not the only one with electronic skeletons in the closet! I've got a board as you describe (but without the clips, that's a good idea), and we have several of them floating around at work, laziness sometimes overrules logic for a 'quick check' at home though! Nigel -- Nigel Orr, Design Engineer nigel@axoninstruments.co.uk Axon Instruments Ltd., Wardes Road,Inverurie,Aberdeenshire,UK,AB51 3TT Tel:+44 1467 622332 Fax:+44 1467 625235 http://www.axoninstruments.co.uk -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads