> Probably a uChip blooper, download the latest datasheet and compare. OK OK, I'll take 50% of the rap. I'd rather MC got manuals right first time > Even RTFM does not absolve you from thinking for yourself ;) Oh absolutely. And btw, the smiley made all the difference - kicking a trier isn't a good look ;) I'd still question item 3 in that excerpt Mike Singer posted.- why protect a blown chip. Is damage to MCLR a foot in the door for complete chip failure that could affect port pins for example ? Academic I guess if the initial damage is avoided -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body