> Olin, > > Don't you have to have a hypothesis before you start to search for a > bug? (am I allowed to answer?) Yes, of course, but when asking for outside help (especially when your own reasoning has not brought the solution - which is probably the case, otherwise why ask for outside help) it is best to tell the facts, all the facts, and OK, after that maybe your ideas. But concentrating on the facts is so important that even explaining them to your cat (kid, spouse, flower, etc) often brings you enlightment. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.