I had an old (kitchen) mixer that was flakey. Having plugged it in and examine it carefully to see what was salvagable, if anything, I decided that the line cord was about it... So I pulled the plug from the wall and sliced through the cord with a big kitchen knife. BAM! Big sparks. Quarter-inch pit in the kitchen knife. The cord I had pulled from the wall was NOT the cord of the mixed :-( BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.