Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
> If it is a typical Elektuur project (I am ashamed: the home location of
> the Elektuur set of magazines is in the Netherlands) it will use either
> a much too large PIC (an 18F452?), an EPROM PIC or an obsolete one
> (16c84-04!), a very large PCB, an unreliable RS-232 interface and some
> impossible-to-get SMPS chip to generate VPP.

Agree there, much to many F84 projects...

> NB I once contacted them about putting WLoader in their summer issue,
> but they insisted that I supplied a PCB using their favourite package,
> which I would have to buy first.

I don't know when "once" was, but I was in contact with them a
couple of months ago, and they said nothing of that sort. I should
supply *some* design documents, and they would just enter them
(manualy as I understod it) in there in-house CAD system, whatever
that is. I'd vote for the one advertised on the Elektor web site...
There was no need for me to buy any new software.

Jan-Erik.

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