Hi Jake, I think it might be pretty hard to fry a 16F84 in your programmer unless you didn't have it registered in the 40 pin socket correctly (it should be all the way down where pin 9 of the 16F84 is inserted into pin 20 of the 40 pin zif). In the hardware settings window, select the PROPIC 2 Programmer and then in the Communication column, invert all of the selections (data out, data in, clk, mclr, vcc), set your oscillator type and your fuses the way you want in the main window and see how that works. dave. In a message dated 6/25/03 7:02:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, grooveee@OPTUSHOME.COM.AU writes: > Hi There. > I have a P16PRO that I am trying to get to work with IC-Prog ... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads