On Friday 20 June 2003 22:22, Herbert Graf scribbled:
>  ....
> Even the latest version of VB has so many
> annoyances that I can't understand why people are willing to put up wit=
h
> it,
>  ....
>         I won't say any more about the hell spawn that is VB since I'll
> likely anger too many people here.=20
>  ....


Then,
On Saturday 21 June 2003 10:51, Herbert Graf scribbled:
>         My MAIN problem with VB is how once you're glued to it
> using/learning ANYTHING else becomes a chore (which is probably my
> Microsoft promotes it so much). ...
> ....
>         Moral of the story? VB (and more fundamentally the Basic langua=
ge)
> puts a programmer into a mindset and programming style that makes it VE=
RY
> hard to learn ANYTHING else.  ...
> ....



Herbert,

I've not seen the whole of this thread, but you stated in the earlier mes=
sage=20
that VB is "dung", "hell-spawn", etc, and made it fairly clear that you h=
ate=20
it.  Here, you seem to want to explain why, but instead make a case that =
VB=20
is a poor choice for a *first* language.  They're not the same argument. =
 I=20
don't see an explanation why VB itself is bad.

Also, bad or good needs to be qualified for certain situations and=20
environments.  Everything has it's place, and perhaps given certain=20
conditions and criteria, VB may be a good choice.  The efficiency and=20
reliability of the resulting application are unfortunately not the only=20
factors in choosing a development language.

BTW, I'm not stating above that you're right or wrong about VB being crap=
, nor=20
about BASIC being a good/bad first language.  Everyone has a different=20
learning style, and I think BASIC can be a great first language for many=20
people, especially "non-techies".

Cheers,
-Neil.

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