I made some units 5 or so years ago using 16c84's they were only for single pair tracing. just two o/p pins connected via 100nf and 100 ohms to an American type phone socket mounted at the end of the box powered by two AA batteries slide sw and a led The chip outputs an ascending audio tone and flashes the led to show it's working I have various leads I can plug into the socket to connect to the line i.e.: crock clips, jack to jack etc. They are still working fine Should be simple to make something like this with more outputs and pulse them to id each wire/pair one blip =wire 1 two blips =wire two up to five then make the first blip a double to tell you that your on the second set of five (does phone cable still use the five color repeat?) and so on Peter Cousens cousens@biscit.biz > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On > Behalf Of George Shaw > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:38 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: [PIC]: Cable Tagger Project -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.