My suggestion: get the PICDEM2 PLUS evaluation board along with the ICD2 debugger module. Digikey sells these together for $229US. I think they are available directly from Microchip also. The demo board has 3 picchip sockets: 40 pin dip, 28 pin dip and 18 pin dip. It has pushbutton switches, led's, an lcd and a prototyping area. It comes with a PIC18F452 chip and one other. Example programs are on a CD. Hook this up with the ICD2 and you can start writing/debugging code *immediately*. I bought one to learn about the 18F452 chips; it works great. There is enough demo code on the CD's included to get you going right away. And the setup works as a chip programmer as well. Digikey part number: DV164006-ND Microchip part nuamber: DV164006 KIT EVAL ICD2 W/PICDEM2 PLUS Microchip Technology In Circuit Debugger ICD2 Module, Cables, Power Supply & PICDEM2TM Demo Board ICD2 $229.00 My guess is that since this is a standard Microchip part, you can find it in the UK. Tom M. At 10:59 AM 6/23/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > I'm absolutely new to pics. I work as an electronics/IT tech. >Gotta spend some money before the end of the budget year. >I do not not have much time to do the research into what I should buy. >What I need basically I think is a starter kit, developement kit and the >chips. Preferably from from RS components CPC Farnell, Maplin >Any other UK based company. If it is the sole supplier. >I am in the UK. I just want to expand my workshop into working with pics. I >hope somebody can direct me . Otherwise, I'm gonna buy the wrong stuff. > >Mohammed -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.