>> And BTW, thanks for saying thanks. So many / too many people >> have lousy manners >> > No problem.. "Treat other people the way you want them to treat you", > as I recall.. Just my $.02 that I'll probably get the use hate mail for, but I wouldn't want people cluttering up the list with "thanks" replies. I might be interesting and instructive to see how the problem was eventually solved, but I wouldn't want things to get to "chatty". In my opinion, the most polite way to ask a question is to explain the problem clearly and concisely but without omitting the all important context (this is because often the real problem is that the wrong question is being asked, but this can't be determined without the bigger picture). You should also have made all the reasonable attempts within your capabilities to solve the problem, and show that you have done so. For example, no matter how little you know about electronics or microcontrollers, there is no excuse for at least trying to read the manual and commenting your code. Question like "my A/D doesn't work" are useless. A good question is "On page 111 is says the A/D does , but I seem to get ...". Other than that, the next most polite thing to do is to leave the bandwidth to someone else unless you've got something to add. This isn't the Little Old Lady's Knitting and Gossip Society. If you want to socialize, take it to [OT] or somewhere else (where I'm not). ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.