>> And how does that compare with other rad tools like vc++ vtcl python
>> and more ?

> Well from what I have seen of VC++ its easier to use in many ways, and I
> dont know about the vtcl python but I had a quick look around on google
> and VB seems to be a much more cohesive tool.

Ah, cohesive ? What is cohesive ? You mean it has everything packed in it
and you do not need (nor can you) use external resources ?

Borland C Builder has been around since before M$ had rad tools (I still
have Turbo C 2.0). Its user interface is correspondingly smooth. I am not
bashing VB but apart from a 'good' name aquired by volume and advertising,
what advantages does it have ? It is well known that you can write
spaghetti code in any language, it need not be Basic. Nor is structured
Basic, like VB, very hard to maintain or use as a language.

The problem I see (as an occasional compiled VB application user) is
libraries (VBRUNxxx.DLL). Somehow I never have the right version installed
and if you have several they tend to knock each other out (new library
overwrites old during install). I do not know the details but this
happened twice so far (while using maybe 4 applications that require
VBRUN.xxx).

As to others, esp. tcl, here is a pair of buttons in tcl/tk, done without
a gui (vtcl is a gui for making tcl apps, spectcl more so - also produces
java code):

-- snip --
## simple tcl application (two buttons for the price of one)
# colors
set bg1 #FFD0B0
set bg2 #D0FFD0
# buttons
button .b1 -text "Push me!" -background $bg1 -command { puts "Ouch!" }
button .b2 -text "Exit" -background $bg2 -command { exit }
# show the buttons, one on top of the other
pack .b1 .b2 -side top -fill both
## the end. Really, that's it. Plug: visit http://www.scriptics.com/
-- snap --

How about that for ease of programming ? And it runs on many platforms as
is, including on Windows. Python uses Tcl/tk for graphics (more or less
directly).

Peter

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