> Are you flying all this commercially? Wow! "Flying" referred more to the rate of travel than the mode of transport. www.tinyurl.com/ecle Most distance by air. Most useful miles by car. Fly only 9 commercial airline hops: NZ-LA, LA-UK, UK-Paris, Paris-UK, UK-Ireland, Ireland-UK, UK-Bangkok, Bangkok-Sydney, Sydney-NZ. 40,000 odd km. Drive: US 2 weeks, Europe 4 weeks, UK 2 weeks, Thailand 2 nights, Sydney 2 hours. Total 5,000 to 10,000 km Average in 63 days about 800 km/day :-) (most by air). RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics