> I think it would be possible to make the logo mostly invisible but > it would be hella difficult I've looked into doing this and is still high on my wish list. It is possible in real time with micros I hate the damn things too and don't see the point of them for ordinary broadcasts. Sky Movies here tried it out for a week but got so many complaints that they took them off in a big hurry. Their ads say movies are "uncut and uninterrupted" and people took them to task on that claim with much vigour. TV3 actually increased the size of theirs recently. The only program that doesn't have one is their 6pm main news and the opposition (TVNZ) doesn't, so I faxed them both (as I did when TV3 introduced them many years ago) and told them again I will watch TVNZ's news and why. The main evening news is a flagship program for any network, so it seemed a good target -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu