The thought is legitimate however. Tests for cancer inducing potential are expensive to conduct so they are run with doses just short of lethal. LD50 doesn't have anything to do with cancer-causing potential. If the MSDS says it's a carcinogen, you really have to dig to find out what that really means. (for example, dichromates have a dangerous reputation, but you end up noticing that the data is that chrome plating workers, who work near huge vats of the stuff, for hours every day, end up having a "higher incidence" of mouth and throat cancers. Fine. Reasonably nasty stuff, but I don't think I need to go the full hazmat clothing route to use some dilute solutions for assorted photography experiments a couple times a year.) I really, really, HATE MSDS. All they end up telling you is "everything is dangerous", a view that induces either paranoia or complacence, and is therefore dangerous in itself. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.