>there are a few from Maxim I can't rember the actual part numbers >off the top of my head. > >> >MAX232 (btw there are better chips than that, dont be fooled, if you >> can find it buy the ones that dont need the external >caps, they are a >> pain in the ass) and all was well. >> >> Any recommendation for a RS232 driver/recover that does not require >>external capacitors ? Agreed, and not only that but the capacitor less ones are pin compatible to the capacitor ones IIRC. Go to the Maxim website and look for them. However the ones that require capacitors are much cheaper, and the capacitors are not that much of a hassle. http://www.maxim-ic.com/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.