Jake Anderson wrote: > oh sorry for the double post but before rushing off for a 16F628 get the > datasheet and check the oscilator section out, they require an external > chip to get the crystal oscilator running Huh!? The 16F628 like all PICs only require two capacitors in addition to the crystal to get the oscillator running. No external chip required. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics