Hi folks... I have been using PICS for a while and now I would like to tr= y the ATMEL=B4s little beasts. I would like to build my own programmer, so = on a cheap (or free!!) basis, which software/hardware programmer combination would you recomend? Thax for your time... Regards, *Carlos* -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads