My $.02: First: Read over the 18FXXX, 16F87X & 16F627/8 data sheets. See how familiar you are with what's expressed there. Determine what your short-term and long-term goals are with uC's - you know, what you hope to accomplish. Then, re-post your question with some personal backgound info, such as your level of programming experience & type, level of understanding of digital and analog electronics, and how much you enjoy math problems. I believe you'll find that which chip you start with is a LSQ (least-significant-question). Then you will be able to start tackling high-vs low level language and programmer hardware choices as well as some other gems......before selecting the first chip to play with. Then it's a matter of the issues which all the previous responses pointed at being satisfied. Now that I've said that, I hope you'll get into PIC Assembly and will learn the RISC & importance of understanding the chip architectures. This kind of understanding is far more important an investment than chip choices right now. The 18F's will make the going a bit easier to understand. You'll see why the first time you go back to work with an F84 . Spend the extra couple of bucks, it's worth it. BTW, there really isn't any "chatter" on this list, is there? c & ps: Does anyone know where the old list etiquette text is these days? I have tried to show it to a few folks, but just can't seem to find it... > As a newbee, I am wondering which chip I should start with??? > The pic page > says to start with the 16F, some chatter on here indicates > another chip has > more capabilities and sells for less. > > Can anyone give me some guidance here??? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics