[...Concerning the 16f84...) > For starters I think it's a good choice. The other features (PWM, A/D > converter etc) can be tricky to get working (for me at least) and would > probably just muddy up the learning process... I would still suggest starting with the 18f452. You don't *have* to learn the A/D, PWM, and so forth, right away. And I found them trivial to learn afer I had learned the assembly language. YMMV. -- D. Jay Newman ! jay@sprucegrove.com ! Xander: Giles, don't make cave-slayer unhappy. http://enerd.ws/~jay/ ! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics