> I'm a newbee and someday I hope to be able to program these beasts. > > As a newbee, I am wondering which chip I should start with??? The pic page > says to start with the 16F, some chatter on here indicates > another chip has > more capabilities and sells for less. > > Can anyone give me some guidance here??? As a complete newbie I'd suggest the 18F452, it is pin compatible with the popular 16F877, but being an 18F part, does not have the many "quirks" that get beginners (and long time users...) all the time. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics