Good day all. I'm a newbee and someday I hope to be able to program these beasts. As a newbee, I am wondering which chip I should start with??? The pic page says to start with the 16F, some chatter on here indicates another chip has more capabilities and sells for less. Can anyone give me some guidance here??? Thanks Art -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics