> My t-mobile phone does not grab time from the network.  T-mobile is still
> very, very low tech, and can't even send vmail notifications to
> the phone....
> they send a text-message when a vmail comes in.

        That is not low tech, there are SEVERAL advantages to do it this way. For
example a provider here (GSM of course) in Canada includes the CID of the
person who left the VM, VERY useful. I for one much prefer receiving a text
message, that way I know what time the message was left without calling
anywhere (since the SMS is stamped). Personally I think the text message is
far more advanced then the simple indicator other technologies offer. TTYL

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