How about Mentor Graphics ... supposed to be an excellent package, and I'= ve=20 seen some really neat features in it such as importing from a 3D cad file= so=20 it can flag you against placement of components where space does not perm= it,=20 etc. Really nice stuff! And it's allegedly around $10k. Cheers, -Neil. On Tuesday 10 June 2003 15:37, Bob Blick scribbled: > > Yes, Eagle keeps me from becoming lazy also. Can't beat the autoroute= r > > for the price though! > > I'd like to find something better than Eagle. Price up to $15k. I've go= t > experience with Specctra autorouter, and I consider it very good, can > anyone compare it and the autorouter in the Protel 99SE/XP package? My > last experience with Protel was in 1995 and it was crap. > > Thanks, > > Bob -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu