Another thing about commercial power-supplies is that they (the cheaper o= nes)=20 don't deliver what they state/imply. Some seem to be rated by the *input= *=20 power, rather the sum-total output power. Others seem to be rated f/tota= l=20 output power, which I would think is appropriate since they're purchased = with=20 a certain output-power requirement in mind. What's worse is that some don't deliver the current they state. I've tes= ted 3=20 power supplies (2 new, 1 old/used) recently and found that under a=20 (resistive) load, they can't deliver the output power they state. In som= e=20 cases they may require loading of some primary-voltage outputs to deliver= =20 what was stated, but on a couple, I could not get 5V at the power specifi= ed. FWIW, efficiency-wise, they all were in the 65-85% range. Once you start considering the expensive (allegedly better-quality) comme= rcial=20 units available, building your own becomes a little more attractive. Cheers, -Neil. On Saturday 07 June 2003 06:34, Olin Lathrop scribbled: > > I am currious about switching mode power supplies. How difficult wou= ld > > it be to design a SMPS for use in a desktop computer? > > A lot more difficult than to buy one or salvage one from an old PC. > > > Why would you do such a thing you ask... In my experience PC power > > supplies are junk. They are made with the cheapest parts availible. > > Just like most mass produced commodity items, but that doesn't make the= m > junk. It means they are carefully engineered to do what they need to, = but > not cost a penny more than they need to. > > > I also assume they aren't exactly pictures of efficency. > > Why? These things are optimized for cost, and up to a point efficiency > saves money. Dealing with waste heat is expensive. On the other hand, > they probably forgo the last few percent that might require more expens= ive > ferrite, special caps, etc. I've never measured a PC power supply, but > just from the economic issues I would expect them to be "reasonably" > efficient, but not on the cutting edge. > > > ***************************************************************** > Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts > (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics