Another very important difference between IrDA and "remotes" is the range. IrDA if often only specified to a short distance, say up to 1 meter. "Remotes" can often work over 10, 20 or if the phase of the moon is right, maybe even 30 meters. Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics