After seeing what you are looking at, try this: QSE series from Fairchild. These are, first off for you, through hole parts - very similar to a TO-92 package. Next, they are pretty much equivalent to the 425-1170-1-ND part you mentioned but for receive only. Receive is the toughest job; transmit is easy. Look at the block diagram from the data sheet for the 425-1170-1-ND part and you'll see that you really need a transistor and two resistors for transmit. A base current limiting resistor and one in series with the IR emitter diode. One caveat here. I happen to have been playing with one of these yesterday. Digikey shows the QSE156-159 parts as being 935 nm. The data sheet mentions wavelength in only one place I could find and calls out 880 nm as the wavelength of the test conditions. I believe the receivers use pin diodes and are actually broad band parts; they use optic qualities of the plastic case to limit the incoming light frequencies. In any case, I set one up on my bench and used a HP IR emitter diode and fairly easily attained one meter separation distance. Get a few and have some fun. BTW, I wouldn't think of doing this without an oscilloscope. Unless I didn't have a scope. In which case, I would still do it but it will proceed a little slower since it is difficult to align the parts if you have no indication of success. Of course there are 1000 ways to use a DVM and other tools so don't hesitate - get some parts and start learning something new today. At 11:49 AM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: >Most of the devices I have seen, actually, all of the transceivers I have seen >aren't anything like To-220. They are like DIP except with SMT size pins... >www.digikey.ca, part number 425-1170-1-ND (that's what I'm thinking of) for >example. I think what Olin was describing maybe was just an emitter or >receiver. I actually need a transceiver that is compliant with IrDA, and these >tend to be ~8 pins in some sort of smaller package unfortunately. > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics