>> Some projects I worked on involved such systems (control cables) and >> the ground potentials with a/c units switching on and off and other big >> loads in the building were unmanageable. You can get 3Vac between >> ground and neutral in the same room, without any noise source, let >> alone 50 meters away. > > It's a real eye opener when you connect a cable, and it starts to melt. Hehe. You have to be explicit. When you connect a cable to *unpowered* equipment and it starts to melt, or at least becomes too warm to hold in your hand. Such as connecting the antenna BNC to an unpowered rig. I once found a place in a factory where you could run 'emergency lighting' in the form of 12v bulbs connected between earth ground and neutral. The lights would get very bright when large motors would turn on and off ;-). There was nothing wrong with the grounding (under 0.3 ohms). There was something 'wrong' with the currents in that installation (kAs). Jolts from equipment casings in the same room, running off different circuits are very common (e.g. one segment on ups and one not). Maybe this could be a new way to legally use some wasted power. Eg power safety equipment and some led emergency lights (with small backup NiCds also trickel charged from the ground potential) off ground potentials. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics