Tim, A few days ago I got my cypress emulator with ANSI C compiler Paid 199$ and it does every thing that ice2000 does and cypress Micro does every thing that pic18fxxx does even has DAC on board. I just wanted to work with other products to see the different Cypress Psoc, atmel, Motorola etc, Long time ago I learned GW basic but never used it for embedded Applications who makes basic compilers? Is basic as good as C? Andre -----Original Message----- 850$ Ow You can buy a very good Basic compiler for about 200$ and upgrades are free! And it covers most devices from 12C508 -(even the RF509AG) to 18F8720 (no extras for 18series devices and new ones added all the time) In fact you can add your own in a lot of cases. Tim -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of andre abelian Sent: 05 June 2003 20:51 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [EE]:problem with Hi-tech Hi to all engineers, I bought hi-tech c compiler older version about 2 years ago paid 850$ and received update one time after started working with 18 family pic I bought pic18 compiler for 550$ now new MPLAB 6.20 doesn't communicate with my older version 7,83 complier Hi-tech wants 200$ to fix the problem by saying it is not their fault. If pic18 is install already and I want to install 7.83 older compiler it will overwrite on pic18 compiler directory instead of creating separate directory. All of this I think should be taking care of with free of charge because I do not need any new device support all I need is use one MPLAB instead Of 2 mplabs for each compiler. I just need your opinion to find out if This 200$ charge is necessary or not? Andre -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu