On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, p.cousens wrote: > Can't say that I would recommend using a simulator to anyone who needs > to ask > > If it's a limited input, code intensive application EG. Scott Dattalo > DTMF Decoder pic app. Then they might save a lot of time > > Scott did you use a simulator to develop it ? No, but I simulated the algorithm with Octave. An example of a really use for the simulator is regression analysis of an algrotihm. For example, in the 18f sqrt routine: http://www.dattalo.com/technical/software/pic/sqrt18.asm the simulator can test all 65 thousand cases in a very short instant of time (I should clarify, at least it's a short instant of time with gpsim). Another good example is the 3-tcyc resolution pulse measurer. (I don't have a link for that one). But at one point I created asynchronous pulses of varying widths (up to millions of cycles) and verified that the algorithm worked. More recently, I've been developing some radio stuff. Here, I've capture real-time radio packets with my serial port (printf) debugger and play them back with the simulator. A simulator is just a tool. I find it immensely useful. I *would* recommend it to any one who asks, but also warn that it's a tool! All simulators have pitfalls when compared to reality. Scott -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu