So a real example of how using a simulator would have just wasted time From my own experience I would have just wasted more time than I would have gained using a sim > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On > Behalf Of John Nall > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:33 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Debugging code in the chip snip >I had a jumper wire (attached to a button) which was broken in the > middle. Someone had decided to cut it (me?) , then changed their > mind. So it didn't show. But when you push it one way, it connects. Push > it the other way, no connection. :-( I use a LCD where ever possible or a serial out (sure you can temporarily free up one pin for this) to my PC where a LCD is out of the question Can't say that I would recommend using a simulator to anyone who needs to ask If it's a limited input, code intensive application EG. Scott Dattalo DTMF Decoder pic app. Then they might save a lot of time Scott did you use a simulator to develop it ? Peter Cousens cousens@biscit.biz -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu