Herbert Graf wrote: >>>How can you possibly judge anything you didn't get your hands on ???? >>>Stef Mientki >>> >>> >>Simple - all the embedded apps I've ever done are so dependent on >>real-world external events and >>timing that any simulator would not have been of any practical >>help, and would have saved no time >>over doing it methodically on a real chip. And this was in the >>days of UVB-Eraseable devices - no >>flash! >> >> > > I guess it depends on what you are doing. Many of my projects were heavily >tested with the simulator, most external events can be simulated using the >stimulus files. The only project I did where the simulator wasn't too >helpful was interfacing to an IDE hard drive, and there reason there was >simply figuring out what the hard drive was capable of, the PIC code was >relatively simple. TTYL > That are indeed the cases where a simulator has no benefit. I used hardware debugging recently, creating a DA converter with an analog input. Because I didn't (and still don't) understand all the practical details/limitations, it was of no help to use the simulator. Stef Mientki -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body