>Try www.aepl.com.au/ on the Gold Coast mind you $33.00 ain't exactly >cheap. It's a lot cheaper than in stores. DSE sell them for something ludicrous like $26 for a 2x16, no backlight. Rajiv, thanks for the offer. However I ended up going with the supplier Jinx mentioned - ended up grabbing a couple. At that price, I won't notice, and you never know when they'll come in handy -- The meta-Turing test counts a thing as intelligent if it seeks to devise and apply Turing tests to objects of its own creation. -- Lew Mammel, Jr. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics