John here are some links http://www.digitalnemesis.com/catalogue/default.htm nice neat pkg for cheap$$$$ also www.al-williams.com he has a bread board type. www.kronosrobotics.com hope this helps Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pearson" To: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: [EE]: Serial cable w/built-in max232 or similar? I was wondering if there is a RS232 serial cable with a Max232 type device built-in, so that I can connect a PC to an MCU without having to put a max232 into the MCU circuit. Thanks John -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads