NEW YORK (IDG) -- U.S. programmers, their jobs protected by the labor shortage, have become complacent and less productive than their international peers, according to a study of 16,000 information technology professionals in 28 nations. "Labor shortage", eh? How old IS that article, anyway? Large US software producers are on something of a "quality kick" these days, it appears to me. It's really trivial for a large project to slow down the overall software process 5 or 10x to get 2x "better quality." That doesn't really mean that code writing speed has slowed down, it's just that there is a lot of time spent sitting on your hands waiting for your feature A to get tested, then tested again after the merge with feature B, then tested again after the merge with features C+D, and so on. It's rather depressing... At cisco, the time from "code working" to First production software shipment is now over a year in most cases... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads