John.. HVW Technologies (http://www.hvwtech.com) sell an "RS-232 driver module"...which does TTL to RS232 level conversion. It's got pads for both soldering on hook-up wires or putting breadboard pins on it. Hope that helps. -marc P.S: I've got no affiliation with the company...but have always been satisfied with their service. On 1/6/03 13:08, "John Pearson" wrote: > I was wondering if there is a RS232 serial cable with a Max232 type device > built-in, so that I can connect a PC to an MCU without having to put a max232 > into the MCU circuit. > > Thanks > > John > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > -------------------------------------------------- Marc Nicholas Geekythings Inc. C/416.543.4896 UNIX, Database, Security and Networking Consulting -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads