You can get screwed on the gross as well. All the company has to do i= s=20 drop the price of the product (gross) and make it up with another= =20 attached "service". I have a good friend who got bit with this scam. He designed a multi- user OS for an OEM, for royalties based on gross sales $. After the= =20 systems began to sell well, the OEM gave away the OS and just charged= =20 more for the hardware and software maintenance. If you go the gross % route, I'd make sure you have some sort of minimum value (per unit) clause so they can't get you this way. I think in 25 years I've seen every way an engineer can get screwed b= y=20 royalties. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems=20 On Sat, 31 May 2003 13:58:02 -0700, Bob Barr wrote: >=A0 >=A0The gross is the gross; the net is whatever the accountant wants = it=20 >=A0to be. :=3D)=20 >=A0 >=A0I'd recommend basing royalty negotiations on the gross. It's much= =20 >=A0more straightforward. Do you really want the VP's new Porsche com= ing=20 >=A0out of your royalties? If it's bought as a company car, it comes = off=20 >=A0the net (and thus your royalties). Every company employee can get= one=20 >=A0and it won't affect the gross (nor your royalties) at all. >=A0 >=A0Exact royalty percentages probably vary quite a bit. A few things= to=20 >=A0consider: the effort you'll be expending, =A0the contribution you= r=20 >=A0software makes to the product's success, and any =A0ongoing suppo= rt=20 >=A0requirements. >=A0 >=A0I'd also recommend having a contract provision to be able to=20 >=A0independently verify the company's sales figures in case of a= =20 >=A0disagreement. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu