Speaking of AVRs, I notice that Atmel is repeating their one-day free seminar: http://www.atmel.com/seminar/mcu/ I went to this last year, and found it to be an unusually good balance between marketing and engineering talks. And while the advertised free give-aways are pretty nice (last year, a STK-500, this year an AVR "butterfly"), the seminar may include additional offers for free stuff (last year I got a STK-594 SLIC daughtercard for the STK-500, but I missed connecting with the Atmel rep who wanted to hand-deliver the 500, so I'm not exactly operational at the moment :-() BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu