Check out bugtraq at http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1 There is the top 20 security holes from the FBI & SANS Institute at http://www.sans.org/top20/ Personally the most telling stat for me is the 176 from 35 machines Nimda probes and the 184 from 119 CodeRed probes I've received in the last 50 days since I rebuilt & reinstalled my FreeBSD stable world. There would probably be more probes but every hour I have a cronjob that blocks any IP that has probed me 10 or more times. The biggest holes are in OutLook & IE. One of the ActiveX controls has a hole so big Microsoft recommended not trusting anybody including Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-065.asp -Charlie -- Charles Anderson caa at columbus dot rr dot com No quote, no nothin' -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.