I am looking for a nice (nice means cheap and reliable) programmer for pics (12F,16F, 18F) with software running under windows. Any suggestions? Also I would like to know if anybody have seen or made a programmer for the Texas Instrument micorcontroller MSP430 (flash parts). I would like to build one but haven`t found any info about that... Thanx... *Carlos* -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics