Olin,

- i see a software that says "click here to configure the frquency"
- i click
- my frequency isn't there
- i look in pic datasheet, seeing that it's possible

i still have the right to:

ask if my software is wrong
ask if i'm missing something

i don't consider this to be more arrogant than answering "rtfm"
other 1999 people in the list didn't answered "rtfm"
someone - maybe it's unbelievable for you - helped me out suggesting
a different way to do things

after years of mailing lists, bbs and newsgroups, i still thank
everyone who helps me

Regards,

Faisal

>faisal moro wrote:
>>>  There is no such thing as a 17F877.
>>
>>  typo error, already cleared (ReadTheFuckingAnswers)
>
>Whoa, you're way out of line here.
>
>First of all, you asked me for a favor.  Second, you don't seem to
>understand how email lists work.  I saw you're correction after writing my
>post, which may indeed have been after you posted the correction.  That's
>how email lists work.  Get used to it and stop whining.
>
>>>  RTFM!  The formula is clearly spelled out.
>>
>>  sorry dude (i still don't see a signature), i'm just an "embedded
>>  system newbie"
>
>I don't know what signature you are referring to, or what one would have
>to do with this issue anyway.  If you'd simply looked, you would have
>found the information you want easily.  Most books have this handy little
>section called the "Table of Contents".  I'm assuming you meant 16F877, so
>the appropriate book is called "PIC16F87x Data Sheet", DS3029C.  After 30
>seconds (on a slow day) you would have found the table of contents on page
>4.  This shows the section about the USART being section 10 starting on
>page 95.  Flipping thru this section you quickly find section 10.1 on page
>97 called "USART Baud Rate Generator".  Gee, do you think this just might
>give a few clues about the how the buad rate is generated and how to
>control it to select your own baud rate?  D'ya think!?
>
>>  i still can read the manual and don't understand how things work
>>  i thought, that's why mailing lists exist right? so maybe an expert
>>  programmer can address me in the right direction.
>
>OK, then ask specific questions after you've done your homework.  Your
>question made it clear you never even bothered to look at the manual.
>That's just plain lazy, then arrogant to ask 2000 people to do the work
>you weren't even willing to attempt.
>
>What specifically don't you understand about the baud rate generator?
>What do you find confusing on pages 97 and 98?
>
>>  if you don't like hobbysts that start learning using a hi-level
>>  language its your prob.
>
>High level language or not, you'll never be too far from the hardware on
>these chips.  Use a high level language if you want, but you have to learn
>the architecture else you'll be bumping into mystifying situations
>regularly.  In my opinion, the best way to learn the architecture is to do
>a few projects in assembler.
>
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