>Funny thing about stroppy careless dangerous car drivers >monstering cyclists - they don't seem to realise for a few >coins and their license plate I can find out all about them, but >they can't do the same to me back. I'm sure you'd see some >positive behaviour modification if that ever did dawn on them I'm not sure about 'positive'. Never heard of a flattened cyclist raising a fuss. What movie was that where the bad guys had swords mounted on the hubcaps, like roman attack buggies, and were hunting people with them ? Mad Max ? Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.