> Does anyone know of longevity curves for LEDs pushed beyond > spec? Does it depend soley on manufacturing specifics? Just out of interest and kind of related........... Lumiled (Agilent & Philips venture) have a range of 1W 180,000mCd super-emitters with 100,000 hour rating and a white 5W with just 500 hours life @ 700mA. An important factor is the size of the heatsink on the back of the LED http://www.lumiled.com/luxeon/products/emitter_index.html It's been mentioned here before that heating is a sign there could be stresses on the LED. From Lumiled about the 5W Star V Portable - "The maximum rated temperature of the PC board is 70C, however a heatsink temperature of 35C is required to retain a 90% lumen output after 500 hours". Note that these extreme LEDs are rated in watts, maybe you should use similar calcs on the ones you're using -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu