Just a little thing thing.. The PIC's screwy architecture just so happens to give a massive advantage in compiler design for executing the frame based Java Virtual Machine which gives it at least a 5 fold advantage for Object Orientated Processing over register/load/store architectures.. I find that difficult to believe. Can you explain this in more detail without giving away secrets? BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.