From my cousin Martin: Russell, In late 1970's at NZ Steel, story goes that an electrician walked out of a contactor room and told a work-mate "I've just got a shock off a bus-bar, I think I'll sit down and rest for a few minutes". Half an hour later, his mates found him dead, slumped in a chair in their workshop. We were told "make sure someone stays with a casualty, and keep checking level of consciousness (ie keep them talking, and if they stop, do something!). -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics