Hi Bob Not a put down at all - A school leaver is a person who leaves school, whether or not they have completed the full school curriculum. Like you said, the word "graduate" in the US is used to apply to anyone (And in the case of the dog example you gave, anything, LOL - I liked that one!) who completes a certain curriculum, whereas almost everywhere else it applies solely to people who complete a course of training at a tertiary education institution. Hence I wanted to clarify what I meant by the term, as applying only to university graduates. > Frank Collingwood said: > > > Now you qoute from my posts, but read again what the quotes say - do > > they say anywhere at all that I consider high school and university to > > be the same thing? NO. Do they say that in the US, you use the term > > "graduate" to refer to high school leavers? YES. So how you get the idea > > that I consider high school and uni to be the same, I don't know - I > > have neither stated, nor implied such an idiotic idea. > > > > Fact: In the US, the word "graduate" is applied to school, college and > > university leavers without distinction. > > Hi Frank, > > I took it as a putdown of education in the US - and I don't think I am > alone. Are you putting down education in the U.S.? Yes or no? > > As far as this whole "leaver" thing, leaving means you did not complete, > and certainly would not graduate. If you complete high school, AND get a > diploma, then you have graduated high school. Graduate from high school, > you have a high school diploma. Graduate from university, you get a > university diploma. If a dog graduates from obedience school, he gets an > obedience school diploma. > > Cheerful regards, > > Bob > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body