I didn't give you the whole story but it sounds encouraging so far. :-) It's 868 Mhz and the antenna is punched out of aluminum and soldered to the module. Think I'll just give it a shot. thanks chuckc >What about running these without the groundplane for testing? I assume the >output power will be greatly reduced but I need to get started on some >software development before the larger boards are done. Will running them >without a groundplane to react against fry things? Very doubtful. If you're really worried, solder a 100 ohm resistor across the antenna lead. That will cost you some power, but your SWR will be less than 2/1 (Assuming 50 ohm source, and ANY antenna) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.